Sunday, March 3, 2013

Army GCV: The Bigger They Are, The Harder They Fall



Last week, one of my typical mornings of sipping coffee, listening to smooth jazz, and scanning interesting articles recently posted on the Defense Tech Blog was interrupted when I stumbled upon something extraordinary.  What caught my eye was a picture of a monstrous tank that resembled a Bradley and an article titled, “Army: GCV Needs to Be Big and Tracked.”  I immediately got excited and delved into the article, thinking to myself “Ah yeah!  A new tank, this thing is gunna be B.A.”   Several lines into the article I learned that the Ground Combat Vehicle being developed by DARPA is destined to be the replacement armored fighting vehicle in Heavy and Stryker Brigade Combat Teams…and that it is projected to weigh 84 TONS!!!!  I nearly spit out my coffee when I read that.  That's a really heavy vehicle.  Here are some facts to put 84 tons into perspective.  The M1A2 Abrams weighs 68 tons, the M2 Bradley weighs 28 tons, and the Stryker weighs only 18 tons.
The GCV’s increased size allows it to accommodate a nine man squad instead of just 6 soldiers that the Bradley can carry.  Extra weight is also added on because of a new floating floor design that protects the crew and passengers from direct IED hits.  Still, though.  84 tons?  That must have some affect on the ability to transport the vehicle.  Colonel Rocky Kmiecik, director of Mounted Requirements Division at Army Maneuver Center of Excellence, defended the vehicle when asked how the vehicle’s weight affects deployability.  He responded, “It doesn’t because it takes the same amount of planes the same amount of times to deploy Bradleys as it does Ground Combat Vehicles.  If you are moving tanks to a place those planes are going to be able to support the Ground Combat Vehicle.”  My immediate thoughts were how large the disconnect between the developers of this program and logisticians must be.  What about contingency operations that do not require tanks, but maybe require a lighter fighting vehicle?  I also question Colonel Kmiecik on the deployability of the GCV.  The C-17 can carry up to 85 tons, and can carry 3 Bradleys at once.  With weighing 84 tons, a C-17 would only be able to transport only one GCV at a time.  That means it would take three times as many flights to move a force into theater using the GCV, using up valuable time, space, and money. 
The GCV would also increase the number of support assets required to keep the unit moving.  The increased weight of the vehicle would probably also increase fuel consumption, increasing the number of tankers required to be flown into theater.  Also, a good question is whether the Army has a recovery vehicle capable of towing an 84 ton GCV.  Who knows what would happen if a GCV were to go down far away from a FOB.  I imagine it would look something like an Imperial AT-AT going down on Hoth
A tracked vehicle is also much harder to maintain than a wheeled vehicle.  Putting on a spare tire after one is blown off by an IED is a much easier fix than putting on whole new set of tracks.  
           The size and weight makes the use of this vehicle seem impractical.  If the GCV is to be the replacement system for Heavy and Stryker Brigade Combat Teams, the logistical footprint of those units would become exponentially larger, decreasing their deployability. 

4 comments:

  1. That just seems absurd, 84T for a Bradley Replacement! Add in all the little extras for stocking special track, sprockets, and don’t forget that we won’t be able to fix it ourselves (remember Stryker BCT no FSC) so should things get rough you’ll have to rely on a civilian contractor to come fix your whip.

    What is this designed for IED’s and counter insurgency? China/North Korea/Iran? Tanks, not even tiny ones, don’t do counter insurgency and all three of those countries are stuck with the old BMP’s from Soviet era Russia that we’ve been able to defeat since our COL’s were lieutenants sweating the Fulda Gap.

    Do I see the GCV rolling through soft wet jungle roads and across terrain in Africa? No. How about narrow landslide prone roads over 10k feet of elevation throughout the Middle East? No. How about soft year round wet jungle conditions on non-existent roads in South America? No.

    What I see is another decade of US Infantrymen using the HMMWV or similar light platform to move through the aforementioned situations wishing they had something with some bite and speed to help with hardened targets and enemy mounted forces. Those places I mentioned won’t work with MRAP’s, Buffalo’s, and the like or even Bradley’s and Stryker’s.

    Napoleon ended the age of the castle and that goes for castles on wheels/tracks too; invincibility is unattainable and counterproductive. It’s really easy to just add more explosives and a bigger cone to an EFP or maybe the Russians will do us a solid and double the payload on the RPG-7 and sell it to children for 67 cents like they do AK-47’s in Africa. By the way the two Abram’s tanks disabled in Iraq were hit with RPG-7’s… Death before dismount?

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  2. ************Adding to the article above*************

    Just learned this from the research exercise in class today. Not only will it be hard to move the GCV in theater, but once the vehicle arrives, if the front line is far away from your airfield or port you're out of luck. The HET can only transport 70 tons (a little more than an Abrams), making the GCV too heavy to ground transport using our current systems. If the Army plans on adopting the GCV, we will have to develop a larger ground transport system, further snowballing the logistical footprint.

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    1. This also seems as ridiculous as the German Tiger II (King Tiger) that was deployed in mid 1944. The thing weighed 65-69 tons due to its added armor and armament, making it extremely slow and unreliable. The transmission and suspension tended to break down because of the added weight and the engine was known to overheat. The added armor of the Tiger also seemed to be counterproductive. Many Tiger IIs were captured and destroyed by flanking maneuvers conducted by Soviet T-34s.

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  3. ^^John.Bender, you forgot to mention whether this thing would be used in the Asia-Pacific. I doubt the GCV would be useful without any amphibious capabilities.

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